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>>> good morning. i'm chris jansing. two big showdowns today on capitol hill over the fiscal cliff and ambassador susan rice. both of these have been escalating, and on the fiscal cliff especially the clock is definitely ticking. let me give you a rundown of what's happening in the next couple hours. first, ambassador rice is meeting with two republican senators today. right now she's in with susan collins of maine. later she'll meet with bob corker. yesterday, too, she was on the hill defending herself over her comments following the benghazi attack, but the gop leaders only seemed more entrenched in their opposition. in addition, anytime now house democrats and house republicans will hold separate news conferences to talk about their closed-door meet ings on the fiscal cliff. at 11:30, president obama will make remarks at the white house surrounded by middle class americans who he says would see their taxes go up if congress can't make a deal. later he's hosting big business leaders to talk about ways to cut the deficit. joining me to talk about this, "washington post" political
't want to tip them off. we need to let this go. the fiscal cliff and jobs are far more important. >> and let's talk about the fiscal cliff and jobs. in your time in california you worked on in the state assembly, a state hit hard by a fiscal y crisis. >> i sure did. >> i want to talk to you about something you said in terms of medicare reform and medicaid. obviously republicans are saying, look, in exchange for any type of taxes going up, we want to see some real entitlement reform. you talk about cracking down on waste, fraud and abuse. is there enough revenue from waste, fraud and abuse and m medicare to get the type of serious deficit reform needed to bring down the $16 trillion debt? >> well, you know, i think anytime you're talking about a deficit, there's two ways to bring it down, and i know you know this well. you're either going to raise revenue or have cuts, and i would continue to argue for a balanced approach which means i do think you can find savings in both programs. but what i'm concerned about is what the real agenda is and the real agenda, in my opinion, is to
republican colleagues. >> a growing group of liberal fiscal cliff jumpers if you will as they're being called, they seem to be willing to risk everything, jump off the cliff if social safety nets face deep cuts while tax rates stay low for the wealthy. do you think that is smart politics or could it backfire against democrats? >> i think what the president has said is the right approach to take which is that we want to do everything we can to avoid the fiscal cliff consistent with what he said during the campaign which is that, number one, we have to focus on jobs and the jobs plan and, number two, we have to ask higher income individuals to start paying a little bit more to reduce the debt because if you don't, simple math tells you you will hit everybody else harder. the president's priority has been to protect the middle class and do that by asking higher income earners to pay a little bit more. so i think the president has been clear. he has set forward a plan to prevent us from going over the fiscal cliff and the choice republicans have is are they going to continue to insist on saying t
for the middle class. tonight chris van hollen and jan schakowsky on the latest on the fiscal cliff. >>> the meeting with the president looks good for progressives. we'll get the scoop from james hoffa. >>> plus, breaking news. republicans running the benghazi witch hunt remain disturbed and troubles. >> i'm more disturbed and significantly troubled. >> i'm more troubled. >> joan walsh on today's big meeting with susan rice. >>> and yesterday ricks rolled fox news. >> i think that the emphasis on benghazi has been extremely political because fox was operating as a wing of the republican party. >> today fox news strikes back. >>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. the white house is keeping republicans in a box. president obama is hitting the road to push the extension of tax cuts for income, for folks under $250,000 a year. the president will kick off his tour in southeastern pennsylvania on friday. today he met with small business owners at the white house and tomorrow he plans to meet with a group of middle-class families. republicans will be countering
in washington. the president's fiscal cliff campaign. live pictures of the white house are president obama will meet today with 15 small business owners. the first of a series of meetings this week as the administration puts the pressure on congress to make a deal. the "washington post" reporting the talks are accelerating between president obama and top congressional leaders, including john boehner who was on the phone with the president over the weekend. the white house's pr campaign is being buoyed along by warren buffett who is voicing support for tax hikes for americans just like him. >> i think it would have a great effect in terms of the morale of the middle class who have seen themselves paying high payroll taxes, income taxes and then watched guys like me end up paying a rate that's below that, you know, paid by the people in my office. >> joining me now is wisconsin's republican senator ron johnson. senator, it's great to have you with us this morning. and as we talk about what's taking place in washington, d.c. right now, the million dollar question is all concerns around senato
and budget cuts from the so-called fiscal cliff. the president met with small business owners on tuesday to talk about the effect on their companies from taxes and other charges. right now congress is stalled over finding a solution as democrats demand higher taxes for high wage earners while republicans want cuts to entitlement programs. and last night on hardball, former republican senator alan simpson gave his thoughts on the fiscal cliff and failure of lawmakers to reach an agreement. p. >> they love their party more than they love their country. how it we get to that point, don't ask me, but the whole business of reform and money in the campaign and beat up the guy, and it's not a case of who wins. it's you want to be sure somebody loses. and i say to people whether it's grover norquist or whatever, lord's sake, if you can't step up to the plate, what can happen to you? they can't murder you, they can't burn your house. the only thing they can do is defeat for you re-election by throwing some coo-coo from the left or right on you and if that means more than your country when it's ex
off the fiscal cliff than accept a deal that does not raise the tax rates. as much as you hear this talk it all comes to looking good through the republican house. we do not know yet. we know the staff's been working back and forthe. there's been all sorts of things floating around. to correlate for what the tax cuts would be for the rest of the decade. it's complicated stuff. both teams growing at it. i know they spoke over the thanksgiving holiday, but we are not close to a gentlemen's agreement like you're perhaps hearing from the a few united states senators, tamron. >> thank you very much. let me bring in news nation's senior political reporter lois romano and cnn contributor and strategist keith boykin. we touched on comments on morning joe. he released a little more detail. it says in part republicans aren't against tax rate hikes because of one man or a pledge. we're against hiking rates because they're bad for the economy and hurt jobs. our first team points out it seems like the parties are ready to agree to a large point for taxes on the wealthy. the down side is the
, the fiscal cliff negotiations will heat up. now the speaker of the house has thrown a new problem into the talks, can a deal actually be reached? >>> shoppers looking for their own kind of grand bargain today. we're going to look at the black friday crush at shopping malls and super stores all over this country. but we start this hour with breaking news in egypt. you're looking at live pictures of tahrir square in cairo after the new egyptian president morsi gave himself sweeping new powers today. tahrir square also the heart of last year's uprising. demonstrators filled the streets of alexandria later today. morsi's new powers put his own decisions above all legal challenges until a new egyptian parliament is elected. despite the protests, morsi moving ahead with his plans at the same time insisting that his new powers are for the good ofu issued a statement moments ago saying in part, quote, we call for calm and encourage all parties to work together and call for all egyptians to resolve their differences over these important issues peacefully and through democratic dialogue. ji
in congress over the fiscal cliff. >> they're going to be pulling back a little because they don't know what to expect for 2013, and they want to remain cautious as we move forward into the next year. >> that was kristen dahlgren reporting. speaking of, congress returns from the holiday this week, still facing that so-called fiscal cliff. if a deal can't be reached by january 1st, americans would face half a trillion dollars more in taxes next year, coupled with $100 billion in cuts to domestic and defense spending. now, since the reagan era, most republicans have pledged not to raise taxes. as mike viqueira reports, there are signs of flexibility on both sides of the aisle. >> reporter: it's a pledge almost all republicans have signed. to oppose tax increases of any kind. that once solid wall was showing crass. >> the pledge you signed 20 years ago, 18 years ago is for that congress. the world has changed, and the economic situation is different. >> reporter: but republicans insist in return for defying party doctrine, democrats must agree that changes in social security and medicare. >> i
have a fiscal curve/cliff/mole hill, however you choose to describe it, that includes, of course, the bush tax cuts, but also, the bigger piece is sequestration and the payroll tax cut again. another fight the president has had before. what do you make of his focus only on the bush tax cuts and specifically the middle income earners. >> this was a theme throughout the campaign, something he came out early on and hit hard on. it underscores this larger issue about inequality in this country which is an economic problem. you can't have a sustained recovery when 98% of the population hasn't gotten a raise in the last few years or decades depending on who they are. i think people are starting to focus on that. i think this issue of taxes is crucial of that. i think if we're going to go to the other cuts that need to happen, the entitlement reform you need to have a sense from the population that the rich are doing their part, that there is a sort of social cohesion. you can look to europe and see what happens when you don't have that. >> the president spoke in his comments effectivel
leader summit last week says that the looming fiscal cliff is already impacting his business. >> right now i'm not that bullish at all. in fact i'd say there's a great uncertainly that's just hanging over the entire economy because we're not confident that our guys can govern anymore. people like me just aren't hiring because we're not confident they can do it. >> well, the white house echoed that concern this morning. a new report says failing to act on the president's plan for middle class americans would freeze the economic recovery. obama's plan includes lower taxes on the first $250,000 earned by every american and tweaking the alternative minimum tax. the white house report estimates that consumer spending would fall by $200 million. now that's more than three times what consumers spent just over this entire holiday weekend. there could be a drag on a range of industries from cars and housing to restaurants and supermarkets, if congress can't reach a deal. and look, pocketbook issues are not the only problem here. carl levin, the democratic senator and chair of the armed services
." >>> president obama ramps up the sales pitch on his fiscal cliff picks. will public pressure push republicans into a deal. one leading house republican who happens to be a former pollster takes a very vocal position on what he thinks his party needs to do and to do now. >>> u.n. ambassador susan rice's attempt to smooth things over doesn't go over as well as she or the white house would have liked. guess who stepped out to vouch for her. none other than a retiring amigo, senator joe lieberman. >>> and new numbers on a hypothetical matchup for 2013 that would be sure to get some votes. what would happen if cory booker took on chris christie. that's not the only big 2013 news this morning on the campaign front. good morning from washington. it's wednesday, november 28, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. right to my first read of the morning. so is washington just running out the clock until about ten days before christmas when everyone smells the jet fuel and gets ready to cut a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff? some days it feels that way. the president is stepping up h
. >> if not, we go off the supposed cliff. >> the fiscal cliff or slope. the bump of various height. >> it's going to sell that fiscal cliff. >>> thelma and louise might need to make room in the car for the president of the united states. at the white house today, senior obama administration officials met with liberal leaders and union officials. "the washington post" reports that one told him after the meeting, quote, would the white house go off the cliff if it's between that and compromising their core principles? i was left with the impression that they would. illinois democratic senator dick durbin spoke today at the liberal center for american progress where he said this about the possibility of going off the cliff which fears of this show know is is really more of a curb than a cliff. >> some have called let's go over the cliff and watch what happens. we know if we're not careful, it will in fact stop economic growth and hurt everyone through every income category, particularly those most vulnerable. >> what he did not say is he must not go off the cliff. because the cliff is is pre
about the fiscal cliff. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> we need senators warren and webb, bennett to continue to stand up for us. >> the air war begins in the fight for the middle class. senator bernie sanders, leo gerard and barbara lee on the fiscal cliff developments. >>> jim clyburn calls out the racial undertones. >> these are code words. >> karen finney is here with reaction. >>> congressman alan west finally calls it quits. >> we're not going to contest the certified results. >> the man who beat him joins me. >>> and it's the world according to the fonz. >> there are two kinds of people. cool and nerds. >> tonight the legendary henry winkler on the traditional america and the reelection of president obama. >>> good to have you with us. democrats have the upper hand in the fight for the middle class in this country. it's time to make sure that the party stays unified on the issue of debt reduction. bloomberg news reported on nervous democrats in the house and senate who were wary about pushing hard for tax hikes for the wealthiest americans. among them are seven sen
to washington this week and with just 36 days left to avert the so-called fiscal cliff becoming more apparent that senate republicans want a deal and they would like one pretty quick. but while there may be a bi-p t bipartisan consensus to raise taxes on the wealthy, the sides are still far apart on where the revenue will come from. staff level negotiations are a little bit more than stalled. not fully stalled but they didn't go so great last week and it's unclear where speaker boehner will get the votes for a deal that would raise tax rates. which is why he's pushing against that idea. two senate republicans up for re-election in 2014 have bucked norquist saying they are willing to let taxes ride. chambliss spoke to his hometown station. >> that pledge i signed 20 years ago was valid then. it's valid now, but times have changed significantly. and i care more about this country than i do about a 20-year-old pledge. >> on sunday south carolina senator lindsey graham also broke ranks saying the norquist pledge can no longer be a conservative litmus test. >> when you're $16 trillion in it debt,
heard of and saying who elected him? >> a lot just know they don't want to go off the fiscal cliff. here is the question. if republicans are building to eliminate deductions for wealthy, make the wealthy pay more, is it too far for democrats to push to get rates increased? what's the difference? >> i think the real problem here with democrats as far as democrats are concerned is how willing to do sbiegts entitlement reform are they? you heard lindsey graham say he is willing to change position on taxes if democrats come to the table with entitlement reform. president obama privately indicated he is willing to stick his neck out and durbin willing to do that and will nor liberal democrats come to the table with entitlement reform. we'll see if that is a bigger dynamic that changes this week. >> what is the danger i guess is one question because there are democrats like patty murray saying it isn't a cliff, it is a slope. >> the danger is a massive sudden drop in government spending and even if you hate government spending, spending does keep the economy going and when you cut that much sp
. >> reporter: other than that, tamron, the president's day consumed with the fiscal cliff. the pr campaign he has now trying to get past republican opposition to raising taxes on the wealthy, tamron. >> mike, thank you very much. moving along to the further conversation on susan rice, joining me now, joel reuben, mike smerkonish and erin mcpike. thank you all for joining me. you have people at this point wondering if this is all about the battle that some republicans see ahead for the nomination of secretary of state and it's no longer about the benghazi investigation. i ask this question based on remarks made by susan collins today, senator corker and senator john mccain all related to the secretary of state position. let me play all of these comments together and get your reaction. >> i would need to have additional information before i could support her nomination. >> i would just ask the president to step back for a moment and realize that all of us here hold the secretary of state to a very different standard than most cabinet members. >> john kerry came been a whisper of being president
ground on the fiscal cliff? oklahoma's tom cole, a member of congress says the grand old party should take president obama's party. doo extend bush tax cuts for all but the top 2%. that's a sign some republicans may be open to higher rates for the rich. >>> is it possible negotiators could learn something from the most important movie out there right now "lincoln." doris good win joins us. >>> let me finish with how lincoln outlawed slavery for good and how de it using politics. this is "hardball," the place for politics. with the spark cash card from capital one, olaf gets great rewards for his small business! pizza! [ garth ] olaf's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! helium delivery. put it on my spark card! [ pop! ] [ garth ] why settle for less? great businesses deserve great rewards! awesome!!! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? he loves risk. but whether he's climbing everest, scuba diving the great barrier reef wi
's good. thank you for that, dylan. >>> let's go to front-page politics. the fiscal cliff negotiations are set to take place this week. in washington today, we heard both sides staking out their positions. here's democratic senator carl levin on "meet the press." >> the key is whether the republicans will move away from the rigid position which has been the grover norquist pledge that they signed that they will not go away for additional revenues. >> the gop rejecting the decade-old pledge. here's what norquist said about cham bliss. >> the commitment that he made to the people of georgia was not to me. it was to the people of georgia that he would go to washington to reduce government spending and reform government, not raise taxes. if he wants to change his mind and become a tax increaser so we don't have to reform government, he needs to have that conversation with the people of georgia. >>> >> and new today, congressman peter king on the controversy. >> i agree with chambliss. if i were in congress in 1941, i would have signed al declaration of war against japan. i'm not going to d
on thanksgiving day? we're going to get some new perspective. the fiscal cliff, might a new wrinkle make it even tougher for the two parties to make a deal? it is one of the big hits of the season, the new film about abraham lincoln, and coming up, a unique take from doris kearns goodwin who wrote the book. imagine if this were your neighbor. one holiday display is drawing a lot of attention. that is in our one-minute playback. wow. good morning, everyone. welcome to "weekends with alex witt." let's get to what's happening right now out there. we have some new numbers today. as retailers begin to calculate black friday sales and whether it paid off to open on thanksgiving. all that, plus today is small business saturday, and cyber monday, of course, happens in just two days. nbc's michelle franzen is in n manhattan. >> alex, we've gotten through the first wave, the black friday, include being the early start that began on thanksgiving evening. so how did everything turn out? well, retailers say so far, so good. they saw a wave of people coming through, a rush of shoppers going through those do
hill, it's back to the bargaining table for lawmakers facing a year-end fiscal cliff. yesterday the white house took a hard line insisting tax rates have to rise on the rich. and warning that any more delay on a deal could ruin consumer confidence and hurt-day retail sales. nbc's tracie potts joins us from washington with all of those details. tracie, good morning to you. >> reporter: hi, lynn. good morning, everyone. as we track negotiations over the next few weeks, keep in mind that the key sticking point seems to be how do you get people who earn over $250,000 to contribute more? limit their deductions? close loopholes? or raise their tax rates? today president obama meets with small business leaders continuing his push for higher taxes for the wealthy. a new white house economic report warns if tax breaks go away, the average middle-class family will owe uncle sam another $2,200 next year. >> it seems to be the thing that we can all agree on, that middle-class families should see an extension of these tax cuts. >> reporter: some prominent republicans who have been dead set a
of pushing for immigration and fiscal cliff and saving up his capital there? >> reporter: well, it's clear the president is fond of susan rice. you saw that in the press conference after the election. he really forcefully defended her. you saw more passionate people had been waiting for from the president. if there's a time to push someone, the president believes is the best personed to the job, it's after you win the election in a pretty strong way. so the president, i think, if he wants to push her, now is the team to do it. it's interesting that so many senators such as john mccain and lindsey graham oppose her. policy-wise she's closer to them in terms of policy and intervention and human rights than, say, senator john kerry, for example. >> amanamanda, you referenced t press conference where the president went to bat for susan rice. let's actually take a listen to them. >> for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who this nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received and to besmurch her reputation is outrageous. when they
this, the austerity crisis, better known as the fiscal cliff facing washington and the country. this hour president obama will speak live at the white house flanked by middle-class families whose household budgets depend on congress reaching a deal by january 1st. his latest effort to use his bully pulpit. nearby on capitol hill, both parties are meeting behind closed doors at this very minute. each side hashing out where they are willing to compromise and where they are drawing the line in the sand. >>> the other big story we're watching for you, a second round of sitdowns for united nations ambassador susan rice, who's in an all-out campaign of her own to face her critics. after three republicans issued blistering comments yesterday, this morning rice is meeting with republican senator susan collins of maine and in an hour is expected to meet with senator bob corker of tennessee. rice's harshest krit eks are still vowing to block her potential nomination as next secretary of state. >> i think everybody gets to, one, be nominated, and, two, go through the hearings and the deba
to break. so goes the story that is the fiscal cliff. the president is stepping up his outside game with events this week to 0 build public support. some call it posturing for his preferred combination of tax ineeses and spending cuts. a contrast from how the white house conducted itself during the 2011 debt ceiling standoff. ultimately this fight comes down to another number, 218. the number of house votes needed for a deal. and it's not clear that his efforts will persuade 100 to 120 house republicans who are needed at a minimum for boehner to get a deal done to get to the 218 overall. remember these republicans believe just as fervently as the white house does that they have their version of public opinion on their side. why can do we think this? when it comes to their own voter, both sides are right. the president won re-election fairly handily, but so did republican incumbents in the house. these are some stunning statistics that gerrymandering has created. 93% of the 205 house republicans who ran for re-election won. 88% of them won with 55% of the vote or more. the president
if there is no deal on the fiscal cliff? >> that's right, andrea. we looked at what would happen if the middle-class tax cuts are not extended. the typical middle-class family with two children would see a $2200 tax increase next year if the tax cuts are not extended. that will hit their pocketbook. that would reduce consumption by 1.7 percentage points and reduce gdp growth by 1.4 percentage points and would be a big hit to retailers. we calculate that about $200 billion less would be spent next year than would otherwise be the case if the tax cuts for the middle class are not extended. and just to put that in perspective, that's about four times as much as spent over black friday weekend. >> why isn't there more action? we don't see the leaders coming to the hill, we don't see any meetings. what is going on perhaps behind the scenes because mitch mcconnell, among others, critics of the president, of course, were saying where is the presidential engagement. why is he going out to the public and continuing a political campaign to drum up support and not engaging one on one, meeting with the le
against the clock trying to reach an agreement on the fiscal cliff that is fast approaching. the president is trying to ramp up public pressure on congress to accept his ideas for debt reduction in. in the coming days he meets with small business owners, middle class taxpayers, around corporate leaders. friday he tried to recapture his winning spirit in pennsylvania touring a toy manufacturing plant. i don't think the event is in whoville but the republicans as grinch playbook is probably evident enough. to hear some of the president's team, they see this christmas going their way. >> i think we're going to get this done. i'm more positive than most. i'm heartened by many ever my senate republican colleagues who have stepped forward and basically said that their real oath is to america and not to a washington loppiest named grover norquist. >> it's actually true. some republicans have signaled a willingness to buck grover norquist and his anti-tax pledge and raise some new revenue. "the wall street journal" weighed in with a reasonable argument. president obama's re-election means the taxe
's not the powerball lottery. it's the fiscal cliff. just in the last hour, at his first cabinet meeting since re-election, the president expressed the urgent need for a deal, one that he wants to see extend tax cuts for the middle class while letting them expire for the highest earners. >> there is no reason why taxes on middle class families should go up. it would be bad for the economy. it would be bad for those families. in fact, it would be bad for the world economy. and so i think it's very important that we get that resolved. and i am very open to a fair and balanced approach. >> the president met with middle class tax payers today, urging them to employ twitter hash tag my y2k, telling congress this is too important for them to screw it up. >> today i'm asking congress to listen to the people who sent us here to serve. i'm asking americans all across the country to make your voice heard. it's too important for washington to screw this up. >> and a new survey shows the president has the public on board in a new washington post poll, 60% support raising taxes on incomes over $250,000. a hea
the ground game was in florida. can he put this ground game to work to fight the fiscal cliff? the "hardball" story on that one is coming up right now, the place for politics. ts and hasbro trust duracell to power their donated toys? duralock power preserve. it locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. guaranteed. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. >>> "the new york times" has just listed "jack kennedy: elusive hero," my book, on the best-seller list. it's a big honor for the paperback edition. it's a great book of american heroism, the story of jack kennedy, who he was when he lived, who led us, and, of course, who inspired us. it's a perfect upbeat gift for yourself or someone who shares our love of history and american greatness. we'll be right back. >>> well, we're back. republicans have always mocked the president's experience as a community organizer. remember those laugh lines back in 2008 at the convention? here they are again. >> he worked as a community organizer. what? >> i guess a small town mayor is sort of like a community organizer except that you have actual resp
the fiscal cliff or the debt limit which looms in february or march. >> as we know there is no real fiscal cliff. it's more of a curve or a mole hill. it's serious and real but not going over the cliff. if there is something of a cliff-like situation, it's playing to the president's advantage. december 31st what he doesn't want, the bush tax cuts for the rich, will be gone. they'll also be gone with the middle-class tax cuts. two years ago the republicans tried to hold the president hostage and said listen, if you don't give us the bush high-end tax cuts we're not giving you the middle-class tax cuts. the president ju jitsued that into a second stimulus. the president this time around has a little advantage. he can let all tax cuts expire on december 31st which is what democrats are advocating, first week in januariry when the congress comes back in, he can say, guys, we have 98% of the public i want to give tax cuts to right now, we can keep arguing about the top 2 but do this right now for the 98%. how come you're not with me on this? that's i think is a card for him to play heavy and gi
are headed for this fiscal cliff and we need to do something to resolve that. we have an opportunity here to lock in responsible fiscal policy over the next few years. i think we should be able to do both. >> ken, we're told that the president is meeting today with the head of mitt romney's favorite organization, the magnificent chamber of commerce which as we know produced some marvelous surveys that appeared to support him. he spoke with speaker boehner and harry reid over the weekend and yet no meeting date is set. what kind of outreach is going on behind the scenes? are you aware, ken, of any other relationships that are being developed at this moment to try to fend off the fiscal cliff? >> yeah. mostly what we're hearing about is that the staff level there are ongoing negotiations between the white house, between harry reid and the senate majority leader's office and john boehner's office, the house republicans. but so far what we've seen, at least in the principal, is really just highlighting the differences and how stark the differences are. yes, there have been some republicans wh
. >>> plus, fiscal cliff diving. the countdown to the new year is counting down to economic disaster. what will it take to reach a compromise and pull the country back from the edge before january 1st. >>> the holiday season kicking into gear. we'll take you all around the country. meantime, relative calm between israel and gaza following the cease fire did not last very long. today a clash at the poirder left one palestinian dead and 15 wounded. as usual, we are hearing two different versions of this cease fire version. we have two reporters there. aman, i'll begin with you. what are they saying about the glash at the gaza border today? >> they're saying that the palestinians, 300 of them approached the israel/gaza border on the palestinian side of it. they went there to access their farm land. that area is considered mostly essentially farm land for those families. a lot of people earn their livelihoods from there. they were going there to protest and demand that they have the right to go as far up to the border as possible. the reason why is because over the years israel has imposed a n
obama term in office? the economy, the fiscal cliff talks, the president's priorities in the next four years. our roundtable is here. david brooks of "the new york times." msnbc's reverend al sharpton. former ceo of hewlett-packard carly fiorina >> historian and film maker ken burns. and nbc chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell. and we'll here from representative gregory meeks this morning as we check in on some of the hardest-hit victims of hurricane sandy and see how they offered thanks this weekend while surrounded by destruction. >>> from nbc news in washington, the world's longest-running television program, this is "meet the press." with david gregory. >>> president obama doing his part for the economy over the weekend out holiday shopping as part of small business saturday, picking up several children's book at an independent bookstore iypÑarlington. >>> meanwhile, uncertainty in the middle east. more clashes in egypt over the weekend as police use tear gas this morning to disburse protesters in cairo. i want to start there. we have "new york times" columnist dav
rose petal in the path of john kerry to be the secretary of state. >> the fiscal cliff negotiations the president trying to rally the middle class in favor of the tax increases on the rich, what is the next step in terms of the real key players which is the president and john boehner? i know they've been talking, there have been a lot of conversations on the phone. is there going to be a meeting? >> you know, andrea, i hesitates to make predictions but i would say that my guess we're probably in a similar place in 14 days as we are today, which is they're talking, the tax rates on the wealthy entitlement reform, these things are still on the table but we haven't had anything defintive. congress and washington in general works best and sometimes works only under a very tight deadline. i can't imagine anything getting done in the next 10 to 14 days, other than kind of the participants, the important participants getting together whether on the phone or in person to hash it out. i think we're looking at kind of closer to christmas rather than further from christmas for a deal if there
to say, raise taxes or lower spending or going off the fiscal cliff. where are you? and how do you feel about tinkering with medicare and medicaid? >> look, i think we've got to put aside all of the sacred cows and really got to be willing, as dick durbin said, sit down and negotiate and come up with a plan, a long-term plan that's balanced, that looks at the domestic side of the budget, the defense side, the mandatory programs, and the revenue side. and if we're willing to do that, then i think we can get an agreement. but i think to go to the tax issue that you were talking about earlier, there are really two issues there. one is the amount of revenue that needs to be raised. but the other question is a fairness question. and if we're asking people to accept the sacrifices that they're going to be making if we're cutting spending in areas that are going to really affect middle class families and others, then we've also got to be willing to ask those who are doing the best in this country to share in that sacrifice. and what i've heard from people in new hampshire is they're willing to
the fiscal cliff. speaking to the economic club of new york, bed bernanke urged lawmakers to reach a deal to avoid the automatic spending cuts and tax increases. bernanke said going over the cliff would pose a substantial threat to the economy. >>> hewlett-packard stunned the markets after alleging an accounting scandal at its british software unit would cost the company $8 billion. hp stock plummeted 12% on tuesday. then there's the fate of the twinkie. it's not looking good. >> oh, no. >> hostess brands will proceed with a plan to go out of business after last-minute talks with striking workers broke down yesterday. the company and bakers union had entered mediation in an effort to try to save over 18,000 jobs. >>> president obama is calling on congress to follow the example set by former u.s. senator warren rudman of new hampshire who called for bipartisanship during his time in washington. he passed away on monday from complications from lymphoma. he warned against large federal deficits and was a fierce critic of the reagan administration in the 1980s iran-contra affair. >> the ameri
the holiday break with a major economic problem on their hands. finding a solution to the fiscal cliff requires political leadership. where do we stand with december just around the corner? let's bring in kristen welker and neil irwin, economics editor from the washington post's wonk blog. i love that name. i have to hand it to you. kristen, are you getting a sense of optimism from white house staffers about the future of these negotiations? i mean, how connected do they say the president was to the problem with all the international issues over this past week alone? >> reporter: well, i think that they would like to be optimistic about this problem. certainly president obama has been meeting with congressional leaders. he had them here at the white house last week. they came out and struck this tone of bipartisanship, but they're also cautious in that optimism. you remember the knockdown dragout debt ceiling fight of the summer of 2011. i don't think they think it's going to get that ugly. at the same time this is not going to be easy going as we head to the first of the year. now rep
and fiscal cliff fears. >> of course, we're talking about the -- >> fiscal cliff. >> it does cause uncertainty. >> there's a great uncertainty. >> there's always uncertainty. life is uncertain. >> i think it's more of a slope. republicans possibly maybe -- >> growing number of republicans. >> looking to make a deal. >> and they would like one pretty quick. >> some top republicans suggest they could shock horror. >> the mythical grover norquist. >> break with their sacred pledge. >> to grover norquist. ♪ another one bites the dust >> nobody's turning on me. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge. >> nobody's turning on me. >> it is not about that pledge. >> nobody's turning on me. >> it really is about trying to solve problems. >> i'm sorry, that's just silly. >> grover norquist is not jesus. >> he can't burn down your house. >> we would highlight whose kept their commitment. >> this guy's a political lone shark. >> nobody's turning on me. >> i will violate the pledge. >> nobody's turning on me. ♪ >> with 36 days until the curve, republicans on fox news say their party is in chaos a
at the top of the hour on "morning joe," republican lawmakers show signs of compromise on the fiscal cliff with some backing away from grover norquist and his anti-tax pledge. we'll discuss what that means for the livelihood of a deal ahead with the "morning joe" crew. >>> and when we come back here, we're going to huddle around the water cooler. we finally have a dollar value for what it would cost to ride a manatee. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] introducing the new dell xps 12. part of a whole new line of tablets from dell. it's changing the conversation. ♪ >>> we told you at the top of the show that a congressional compromise might be in the works that would keep the government from going over the so-called fiscal cliff at the start of 2013. if a deal can't be reached, the vast majority of american families will be affected starting on january 2nd. if you want to sound smart today. >> i want to sound smart. what should i do? >> read the next one. >> how do i sound smart? >> tell your friends 90% of american households would face higher tax bills for 2013 if congress can't co
hands on your thanksgiving table and say a two-word phrase that starts with fiscal and ends with cliff. your uncle at thanksgiving will say we have to do something about that fiscal cliff and really we got to do something to fix our skyrocketing deficit. our national deficit that he will tell you has been going up and up and up like a rocket and spiraling out of control like a something going out of control and paul ryan is just so right and if congress and president obama do not do something to stop the skyrock edding deficit, to sop up the red ink, if they don't do it by new year's or sometimes whenever the emergency is supposed to happen, we will go flying off the fiscal cliff. and not like these guys who mean to do that, but more like cliffhanger cliff on "the price is right" for whom going over the edge is really a dire mistake. beware the fiscal cliff. you will hear this at the thanksgiving dinner table. when someone inevitably brings up the fiscal cliff and how our sky rocketing deficit is a huge danger to us, do not crawl under the table. do not give up on thanksgiving. help yo
that is productive and happy. >> and back at you all. >> thank you. >>> who do you trust more on the fiscal cliff? ben bernanke or rush limbaugh. rush thinks he holds some cards in the looming negotiations. can congress cut out the middlemen, the drama and make a deal? we will discuss next on "now." look, if you have copd like me, you know it can be hard to breathe, and how that feels. copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiriva helps control my copd symptoms by keeping my airways open for 24 hours. plus, it reduces copd flare-ups. spiriva is the only once-daily inhaled copd maintenance treatment that does both. spiriva handihaler tiotropium bromide inhalation powder does not replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms. tell your doctor if you have kidney problems, glaucoma, trouble urinating, or an enlarged prostate. these may worsen with spiriva. discuss all medicines you take, even eye drops. stop taking spiriva and seek immediate medical help if your breathing suddenly worsens, your throat or tongue swells, you get hives, vision changes or eye pain, or problems passing urine.
the affordable care act on the table in fiscal cliff negotiations. congressman elijah cummings will respond. papa john's plays politics with pizza and the people fight back. >> no, no, no, no. >> we'll tell you about the pizza maker's face-saving move. and republicans never rest. ohio senator turner on the effort to block the vote in 2016. >>> and political comedian, baratunde thurston on how to talk to this guy at thanksgiving. ♪ i want my country back, country back, country back ♪ . >>> good evening, folks. thanks for watching. someone needs to sit down with the republicans and explain to them how negotiations work. when you have no leverage, you don't get to make outlandish statements and demands. house speaker john boehner recently called himself the most reasonable man in washington, but in an editorial for the cincinnati enquirer today, boehner took the very unreasonable position of including obama care in debt negotiations. "the president's health care law adds a massive, expensive, unworkable government program at a time when our national debt already exceeds the size of our country's
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